COVID-19 Update – April 22, 2020

>> Welcome everyone, thisis our Wednesday update and we will be movingnow to a regular schedule of twice a week updates.

We will probably moveto a Tuesday/Thursday schedule startingnext week.

That is not becausethe need for vigilance and everything we aredoing has gone down.

A lot of folks have beenchatting with me and is saying is that we aredoing the right thing.

It feels like we areflattening the curve.

These things are true andwe should be proud of how we have workedtogether as a community to really savepeople's lives.

But I cannot stressthis enough.

We are not there yet.

In fact, since last wespoke, we have had the highest days ofincreases in cases that we have had since thebeginning of all of this.

Remember, even if youbelieve, and I do not think I do and I know the publichealth officials do not, even if you believewe are at the peak remember it'sonly halfway.

We have to come downon the other side.

Remember that we haveto be careful about secondary infection.

Remember that in 1918the Spanish flu claimed 5 million lives roughlyin its first wave.

In its secondwave, it claimed over 50 million lives.

We are not done.

I want to say toeveryone, I want to say thank you for doing the work we are doing, it's tough.

I know everyoneis on edge.

I know we are allwaiting for the next thing that I also knowit's the right thing to do.

Because, together weare saving lives.

I'm going toturn it over to the chief of the Calgary emergency agency thathas a number of messages for you and Iwill come back and talk a little bitabout the things we are doing on mental healthand then we will wrap up.

>> Thank you, just a shout out froman enforcement perspective, I want tothank all those people who have beendoing it right.

You've been makingsacrifices in your life, you have been makingchanges in your life and I know you all do itfor a particular reason and I'm motivated thatway and I know many of you are also.

I know it's hard.

From the perspectiveof enforcement, we have all been workinghard together.

And like I said, I knowyou are making great efforts, your savinglives and your heroes for it.

We are not just crashtest dummies that can run into a wall and assomeone picks us up and reassembles us.

It's the situation that'screated when you actually damage others.

You only need to lookat one of their recent outbreaks to realize howmany people have been impacted.

How many lives havebeen changed by a very unfortunateoutbreak.

We are spending lotsof time on education.

But I'm goingto tell you that I'm a little frustratedin the sense that there are some groups ofpeople that do not seem to be getting it.

Starting very shortly, we will be encouragingour services that will beworking in conjunction with the police services to useticketing as a last resort.

You should know thatthey will only use as a last resort.

It actually protects you.

And others around you.

A reminder that the fine forcontravening the public health orderis $1200 per ticket.

That's a seriouspiece of impact and quite honestlyit's one that we had right away.

Last night, I had gone up on a road and there were piecesof that roadway that were completelyinappropriate.

It's my understanding, after talking with roads today that there will bechanges in that area the traffic flow will be reduced andpeople will still be able to get through and folks shouldtake that as a hint that if we cannotcorrect those actions of their and we cannotbe appropriate in those ways, wewill take action.

We are not trying to beappropriate in that way, but we will take ask Elainewe have to.

Again, I think youfor the way that you have been behavingand acting.

I'm so impressed when Igo running and I try to stay off on the pathless traveled but when someone sees mecoming, they move out of the way and I try todo the same thing for them and I try to give themat least 6 feet of distance and sometimesmore.

Over the last five days, our officers have conducted 240 odd patrols and engaged withover 1800 citizens providing them withthe education.

During the sametime, 311 has had 250 requests about socialdistancing concerns.

69 of those calls wereabout social distancing.

36 about socialdistancing concerns on private property.

And 21 concerns playgrounduse.

26 related to publicgatherings with less than 14 ornot practicing safe distancing withpeople over 15.

Over the same timeframe, and I'm stare — I'm terrible at stats, there were182 general inquiries.

Just people askingwhat they can do.

Our 311 folks, shout outto them for answering those tough questionsaround what you can and cannot do under thecurrent health orders.

I guess anothercall of thanks to our Calgary policeservice.

Our friends in Calgarycommitting standards, theyare really practicing a lot andthey are doing great work.

So we appreciate that.

If I could switch tonesfor moment, we are canceling some of thecommunity cleanups.

As the weathergets Warner — warmer, we turnto spring cleaning.

It's tough for us to hold reception centers.

Starting Tuesday, April21, yesterday, residents are now able to leave outextra bags of waste.

You can use yourthree carts.

We cannot give yourecycling carts but hopefully you can cuteverything up and get in there and condensed.

You can do the same .

You can do the same ofcourse with your green card.

Those are paperbacks.

Make sure on those that you can roll thosebags up so folks don't have a problem.

I just want to tell youthis one because we had the cutest notefor our folks in wasted recyclingservices.

I want to read it to you.

This is from Naomi, “deargarbageman/lady I am writing this letter tothank you and let you know how much Iappreciate everything that you are doing tohelp our community.

I know this mustbe a lot for you.

But I really appreciatehow you are keeping us all safe.

I'm really thankfulto be at home with my family, to be able tocontinue to go to school online, and to be ableto play outside without your help I wouldn't be able to doany of these things because there would begarbage everywhere.

Thank you for helpingus during the crisis I know that you're animportant member of our community because youtake care of us by taking care ofour garbage.

Without people like you, people would not know where to put it and wewould have garbage piled up everywhere.

Sincerely, Naomi” I knowit's cute, but there's a whole bunch of things.

First off, her family, they are isolating and good on you fordoing that.

She's also recognizingthat there is more to this response then wehave right now then just a couple of membersof our community.

It's a whole communityresponse and we should all be appreciative thateveryone is doing so much work inthat regard.

I cannot tell you howimportant your message is to all the folks inrecycling services.

I want to chat with youabout our animals.

Should you becomeL, or in need of hospitalization, there is a program that is here to help.

We will keep your petfor you for up to 14 days.

This is not for you togo visit aunt Mabel.

It's becauseyou are sick.

And if you are introuble, we will not let you down.

Our folks in Calgarycommunity standards will make sure that youranimal is taking care of.

It's 14 days, but letus tell you if you are stuck and there'ssomething that you are in hospital longer thanthat we will not let you down.

We will takecare of you.

That's one program.

Safekeeping from animals are there.

If you have a need, call311 and we will try to help you.

I will turn you back overto the mayor and he can fill in any blanks thatI might have missed.

Thank you.

>> Thank you verymuch, Tom.

I want to remindeveryone that we are looking atevery decision we are making through three gauges.

Physical health, mental health, economic health.

We are working hard attrying to balance those three things but it'salso important to remember that the numberone concern right now is physical health.

He heard aboutthe outbreak at the car bring.

— At the car .

I know it wasabout third — one third of thecases that we have seen over thelast few days.

I want you to rememberthat was one person who may or maynot have been symptomaticwent to work.

As a result, someonehas died unfortunately.

A number of people are very ill, and a number of people are in the position you're nothing theyever wanted to do, they are spreadingin the community.

This is not over.

You will have noticed if you had been on awalk in your neighborhood, you willsee that the flags at all of ourcity facilities have been lowered to half staff.

That is of course, todayin recognition of the horrific eventsin Nova Scotia and our hearts andthoughts are with our friends and neighborsin Nova Scotia.

I actually asked thatthose stay down so it's a reminder everytime you see those flags that our neighborshave died.

That our peoplehave died.

The people in ourcommunity have died.

I'm sorry to tell you, there will be more deaths.

It's incumbent on everysingle one of us to do every singlething we can to protect others.

To protect our familiesand ourselves.

And to protect others.

And we are not done.

We are not close to done.

We have to make surewe stay in a position where we are stilllooking after one another.

I want to answer somequestions very plainly.

People have been saying, I'm confused.

Perhaps there havebeen mixed messages.

First of all, I wantto say the vast majority of peoplein Calgary are doing itexactly right.

Our taking personal sacrifices to really make sure thatthey are looking after their own health andof the health of the community.

I want to say thank you to thevast amount of people who are doingthings right.

People have questionsand they are curious what are the thingsI'm able to do? I will give yousome examples.

Can I go running withmy running group? No.

Not now.

I will tell you why, there are two reasons for that.

Number one, when you arein a running group, it's hard to maintain thephysical distance of 6 feet or 2 m.

There is evidence thatshows that if you are running, and breathingheavily, because of your stream, they can dispersefurther behind you and it's hard to keepthe running group adding that way.

If you are filling upthe whole pathway, no one contacted no one — no one can pass you.

Can I do outdoor yogurt — yoga, no.

If I can arrange a picnicin the park with my friend? You cannot have a glassof wine in the park, that thing hasbeen delayed.

If you want to chat withthem from 6 feet away, but don't plan to dothings like that.

Not now, not quite yet.

We are just not readyfor that and I know that it chafes on peopleand I know that people say, but my liberty, myrights, my ability, I just want to tell youthat these are small Smith — smallsacrifices.

These are not whatour grandparents do to save the world.

We don't want to be ina situation where we say to people across thecommunity that you can only leave your house andonly one person can leave to go groceryshopping once a week, and other people have to stayin the house.

We want people to get outand keep themselves strong and healthy.

But I'm asking you, do that in your own neighborhood.

We are blessed inCalgary to have tons of green space.

There are over 8000ha of green space.

95% of Calgary and arewithin a five minute walk to a park.

I have a fiveminute walk to the largest urbanpathway in the world and there are really waysfor us to be able to get this exercise butreally to look after others while we do it.

If you are concerned, about your mental healthor you are concerned about the mentalhealth of others.

I want you to remember what I keep saying, physical distancing does not mean socialisolation.

Reach out toone another.

Connect with yourfriends and family.

Picture, especiallypeople who are alone, should they know thatthey're not actually alone.

Ensure that your elderlyrelatives who you cannot really see, youare able to make sure you connect with them.

Reach out to strangers.

Google Calgary neighborshelping neighbors and you can see avariety of ways where you can help yourneighbors and give back.

If you find yourselfstruggling, and I know so many of us are onedge, don't be shy, don't think that there'sa stigma, reach out for help.

Call 211 right away andbrilliant people on their side will be ableto help you.

If you don't want totalk on the phone, check out thehealth services website but make sureyou are looking after yourself.

This is a time of grief.

We are grieving forthose we have lost.

We have grievingfor those waves of lives that wehave lost.

We are grieving that wemay not get back to the way things were togetherand that's OK.

Because we are allin this together.

I just want to makesure that we are all thinking about this in a way that helps usunderstand why we are here.

When I talk about cleanhands, clear heads and open hearts, this iswhere the three things come together.

Clean hands, unlike aflood where we cannot control the water, weevery single one of us control the spreadof the pandemic.

And we control it bystaying in our neighborhoods we control it bystaying home.

We control it by washingour hands 20 seconds at a time which is longerthan you think.

We control it by coveringour cough.

Mainly, we control it bybeing clearheaded and that's what Clairehas a really mean.

It means every singledecision you make, every single thing you would'venot given a thought to before, you have to bemaking the decision purposefully and witha clear head.

You have to be makingit in a way that you understand it has animpact on other people.

Open hearts, –ultimately, we have to look after ourselves.

We have to be strategic'sthoughtful and people of Calgary.

When I come here, a couple of times aweek to the emergency operations center, Idon't want to be here.

I have a 79-year-oldmother that lives with me.

Every time Iopen the door I think to myself, whatam I going to be bringing home to her? But I have to do it.

I would like to see — I would like to thinkI am essential service.

In reality, I thinkabout that every single time when I get home, thefirst thing I do is wash my hands for 40 seconds.

Clean the light switchesand the doorknobs and anything I touchbefore I came in.

And make sure that Iam being as safe as I possibly can.

I want to be outin the community.

I want to be kicking offcharity walks and runs which is what I do atthis time of year.

I want to be high-fivingeveryone at the hike for hospice.

I want to be at the yearand banquets and graduations.

I want to be talking to people aboutthis amazing place we get to live in.

I might even want to goto counseling from time to time but let'snot go too far.

Right now I know thatthese small sacrifices, that these endlessvideoconferences that being able to doeverything I can to keep people safe and keepingmy mom safe.

It's keeping everyonein the community safe.

That's why wehave to do it.

We are being askedto do is not hard.

Stay home, if you can.

Make room for thosewho cannot stay home.

Be kind to everyone.

Together we willsave lives.

Even though you do notwant to do this, it's important that all ofus do the right thing.

With that, let'sgo to questions.

>> First question.

>> I'm wondering if youcan provide a comment that the drop-in centerwants to get additional space to get — to helpCalgary's homeless population and is thereanything that the city can do to assistthe effort? >> I'm not aware of thedrop-in center particular asked but Ican tell you that our team and casually –in Calgary has done a marvelous job onassisting to make sure that vulnerable people in the homelesscommunity who are really are the number onepublic health concern at the moment arelooked after.

I'm absolutelyhappy to help.

I'm happy to resurrectthe conversation about hotels pain I will see you dosomething now pain this particular crisishas given us the opportunity to learn alot more about the ways in which we are working withpeople who are homeless.

That photo that wasshared a few weeks ago of the overflow homeless shelter at thefirst alliance church.

The first alliancechurch and they are God'speople and they are looking after everything in terms of what they are doingfor folks and I'm deeply grateful to livein a city with that church.

At the same time, whenI look at those pictures of the wrestling matson the floor one meter about — 1 m apart, I think to myselfthis is the reality of the people inour community.

Let's get serious abouthousing for people.

Let's get serious aboutbuilding housing with dignity so we don'thave to worry about public health inthese shelter spaces and I'm really interested in thinking about how wemake that real as well.

Did you have a follow-up? >> I'm not sure if itwould be for you or for chief Sampson but I willsay, if you find as the weeks go by that even moving to ticketingby bylaw for people who are not following therules, what would the next step be in terms ofoptions and the next step along the continuumif you do not get good compliance.

>> Do you wantto take it? Alright.

>> I think that the challenge is that $1200 fine isno small fee.

I don't think anyone revels in the issueof doing that.

Cumulative finesunder the health act becomefar more severe.

If you are intentionallydoing something that spreads COVID-19 that includesjail terms.

I hope and pray thatwe never get there.

I cannot believe thatpeople would have a series of successive signs and not respondappropriately.

There is a number ofpeople that think they are bulletproof and I have a son who is 32 and he calledme the other night and said, I havehad for peers in the same business inthe United States has passed away fromCOVID-19.

He is 32, strappingstrong and everything you might imagine healthy, no medicalconditions and four of his peers havepassed away.

This is not somethingthat pics on the old and feeble.

Those who cannot takecare of themselves, those that we picture look at theyoung man from south of Calgary who was in ICU? He was a healthy21-year-old business student.

I'm hopeful thatwe never get repetitive tickets.

That people reallyunderstand the magnitude of this but I can tell you thatif they do not, that health act is a veryserious stuff and at the second piecebehind that is the emergency management actthat's very serious.

The fines there are upto $10, 000 per occurrence and up toone year in jail.

We are not in a greatposition to ticket people right now but Ican assure you that those things are beingstrained out by the province but not becausewe want it.

Hopefully we neverhave to goes — go there but we wantto have it in our back pocket.

>> Next question asMadeleine Smith with the Calgary Herald.

>> Hello, I would just like tofollow up a little bit about the futureof ticketing the city.

When you say that wouldonly be used as a last resort, are therespecific criteria that you are instructingbylaw officers went to look at thatoption and when not to and how do you avoid punitive lay targetingpeople that might be outdoors anyway.

I know places like her — like.

There arecomplaints that people are homelessand being ticketed.

More people feel likethey are being chased around by bylaw officers.

>> That's a complicatedanswer, and the first thingI would say that I do not speak forthe police or bylaw.

I speak forus as a city.

At the discretion of themayor and council in this regard? Just to provide clarity, look at the judgment.

The judgment that ourCalgary police officers and bylaw officershave exercised.

They are notwalking around and looking forpeople to get tickets to.

We are all out therelooking to educate people first andonly in the most egregious people, andI spoke to the deputy chief of police, they arenot looking to charge people but whenit's so blatant, she said their officerswill make that decision.

When I say decision, this is all about judgment.

And it's been one of thethings, if you go back to the flood, you go backto the power outages in Calgary, I think thething I would say is different about Calgaryis the 11 — the level of training people haveand at the level of judgment was people usewhen they are in the positions and they do notget excited or hot, they simply tryto educate and where that violationis so egregious, they might choose totake action.

We will do everything wecan to support them but it's almost a separateprocess.

Calgary has been great.

I believe that Montréalhas handed out 1000 tickets at $1000 each.

We are not there and wedo not want to be there because I actuallybelieve Calgary is differentthan that.

I'm not trying to compareus to Montréal, but I'm trying to say that we aredifferent and we can be different we just have tolearn our way through it.

>> Just to follow-up andclarify, no tickets have yet been issued, is that correct? Up until this point? No one in Calgaryhas been ticketed? >> Seven tickets havebeen issued, I think they are holdingoppression — holding a pressconference later today.

I know there's a check in withthe director of Calgary community standards andhe advised me that there were seven tickets also issued forconsumption on the weekend.

But as soon as theconversation turned to physical distancing, individuals werecompliant and immediately understood what was required andthey took appropriate measures.

I think he was feelinggood about that but at the same time, he'slooking forward to the future where we might be getting a few people'sattention with regard to what is going on.

>> No tickets for physicaldistancing violation? >> The seven tickets were related to physical distancing.

I think.

We can confirm thatwith the police.

Within by law, notickets on physical distancing yet.

>> OK, thank you.

>> Next question.

>> This question is forchief Sampson, can you speak a little bit more to your visit toCrescent Road and what limitation you mightput in for traffic.

Will that be a localtraffic only restriction and without just beforethe particular road or expanded intothe surrounding communities? >> I have a meeting at230 to discuss exactly that and to understandwhat they feel is best.

They will tell us whatthey think is the right thing at thispoint in time.

We have received numerouscomplaints from residents in the areaand I have seen the challenges in the areaand of those people who are creating thechallenge, you know who you are.

It was pretty extreme.

We will limit trafficfirst and see if that fixes it.

If that does not, I willbe chatting with the director of roads to determinewhether or not roads need to be closedin the area.

Our first step.

Thewhole goal is not to close the roads.

The more you closethings down, the more you create a problem.

And we push people fromthat location to another location.

We are not trying to dothose things, we are trying to take a balancedapproach and we think that people can get it if we make it a littlebit more serious for them and help themunderstand.

I know I mightsound naïve, I don't think I am thatwe will try a softer approach before we getreally hard.

>> Is there any plansto do anything similar? >> Our whole pieceis education and trying to.

Maybeit's a limiting parking or things after that.

This is right from myboss and my bosses bosses.

We are trying tokeep Calgary ( there is so muchopportunity to get out.

There's 8000 ha of parks.

There is a thousandkilometers of trails.

If you are going togo out there's the opportunity tospread out.

We are not trying tolimit your opportunities we are trying to give youopportunities to spread out.

Rather than going to Crescent Road orthose things try to find the places lesstraveled and I got out on the weekend and in about an hour or an hour and 1/2 and we gave each other great space.

>> Next question.

>> That's OK, thank you for takingthe question.

I'm not sure if this isfor the Mayor or the chief to this point, largelythe neighborhood roadway opening to increase space forpedestrians and walkers, those have gone largely unpublicized.

There is a lot of talk of more and more of theseopening up around the city but I'm just wondering, how are we letting neighborhoods orcommunities no .

these are openjust to limit their desire to goelsewhere in the city in order to getthe exercise.

>> In short, we are not.

It's easy for people tosee what we have done but we are actuallytrying not to say to people that we haveopened a lane on Memorial Drive, everyone come there, it'sa river festival.

We are being reactivein places where we see that there is crowdingand people are trying to do the right thingbut there's just not enough space.

Those are places wherewe are opening up a roadway for thatto be available.

We will probably havethree also more of those coming this weekend.

My intent is not toadvertise those because I do not want to send themessage that everyone should come down andthere's plenty of space.

It's important toremember and I said earlier this weekthat if you don't live in a rivercommunity, it's not your part.

I should've added thatif you do live in the river community, theriver pathways it — is your part.

We want to make sure thatwe are not overcrowding their green spaces.

>> Next question.

>> Hello, this is forMayor, what are you expecting in terms ofmass gatherings coming up.

You've just beenextending the date beyond the end ofJune and what time .

>> You got to that question somuch more subtly.

We had originally said that we would ban a cityevents and permitted events from the city.

That does not include one very largeevent in July.

June 30, we wouldrevisit that it has become very clearthat we will need to revisit that soonerrather than later and really make a decision on what rule we would putin for July and August.

I imagine as we arecoming through the data that we will be comingthrough and deciding what we willbe doing those weeks.

>> Do you have anyguidance for large events that are scheduledto the scammer? Mike through the summer? >> — That are scheduledthrough the summer? >> Helping themunderstand where the state of playis now and what might happen later.

It's important forus to remember that right now all city functions and allpermits for functions on city land havebeen withheld.

It may well be thatas things get eased over the course of May, and June we might start allowing smallerevents again but it will be veryunlikely that you will wake up one morning andall of the restrictions will be lifted.

I have said this before, but it's not about opening the floodgates, it's about slowly turning the tap.

People need to thinkhard about how .

What is the likelihood >> The scooter sharingwas quite possible last year.

We have been hearingthat the city has been in discussions withthese scooter companies in the nextcouple of months.

I was wondering wherewe are with that.

I will say the vastmajority of cities that have suggested is notright at this time.

I believe there's nine cities in the worldthat have said yes and other cities will say no.

If Alberta Housegives very specific direction on thisand they say no, then it's unknown.

If they say yes, thenthe city has to determine whether or notwe will continue that this year.

People love them, and Ithink the city should be doing things thatpeople love.

But right now, publichealth is our primary priority and we willtake advice from public health officialson that.

I'm hopeful that we willsee those again soon, and it's not somethingthat we are contemplating right thissecond, but it may well be that we will get somedirection from Alberta health saying an absoluteno or opening the door to it.

>> Here I am with mynon-Calgary question but I'm covering .

Hello Mayor, >> As long as you arenot listening.

>> I'm covering whatis happening in transit right nowwhere they have to lay off 1500 people because they are losingso much money.

And maybe delay someprojects although not the big federallyfunded wants to this purse — to this point.

I know transit is a bighole in the budget but it's covered by.

It'sthrough the city budget.

There's a bit moreresources there.

I would like to knowwhat's happening it with general transitif there is big projects thatwere planned.

>> Sure, I can cover allof that and thank you so much for the question.

Transit is down, andlast I heard, 80% of — 80% acrossthe board.

Most people are stayinghome, so we are having far less use of transit.

We have made adjustmentsso it's about 15 % down.

The reason those numbersdon't match is twofold.

Number one is that youactually want to allow for people to havedistancing when they are on the bus or train.

If you reduce thefrequency to much, the thing thatwe are really very interested in isthat we have to remember that even if you arerunning a bus that has one or two people on it, those one or two people have to get to work.

You have to be able toprovide some service to those folks who by andlarge are providing essential services.

To date, we had not hadto do.

We have done some very minor layoffs butwe have not had to do real big layoffsin transit because as people are ill as they are selfisolating we have fewer people to work anyway and we have been able tomatch our services to the people thatare working.

You are right to sayis not sustainable.

I don't have the numberon the tip of my tongue, but we are certainlylosing tens of millions of dollars a month intransit ridership to clients because peopleare not paying their affairs.

We cannot go on like thisforever and in the absence of a subsidy from thefederal provincial governments we will be looking atfurther cuts.

If there anySilverlining — silver liningsto this, it does allow us to make use.

Also workingwith private providers where there's just notenough to mandate to justify a fulltransit service.

Does that answeryour question? >> The first part, andbig projects like this? >> No big projectsat the moment.

Construction is stillconsidered essential service in Alberta andwe strongly believe that this is a chanceto really build stuff.

To come out of this onthe other side of the mountain to hit theground running.

The green line which isthe largest public work is expected to create20, 000 jobs.

No, we will notslow down on it.

In fact, my intention isthat the right thing to do will be for theprovincial and federal governments to put moremoney into it so we can build even more of andcreate even more jobs in this short term.

>> That's great, thank you.

>> We will take one ortwo more questions.

Next question? >> Next is Alicia.

>> You have answered mostof the questions, but I was wondering.

The chieftalked about trying to keep Calgary ( — keep Calgary ( are they potentially upfor closer to the get too busy? >> Our goal is to keep the I think we are workinghard to keep things open and not closed.

Does that answer it, Ifeel like I missed one part.

>> The only other part.

That answers most of it.

The only other part wasthe dog parks and made people put all of theirdogs on leases — leashes so there's nooff leash point in the city anymore.

>> I'm sorry I missedto that question, we considered closingthe dog park but our parks have anAmbassador program and its with our bylaw officers and theyare working to see whether wehave a problem.

We had a report thatsome of those areas were operating at 50and 75% capacity.

They were reporting back on that time andthey were saying that it was appropriate.

The things I say to dogowners is that you could make that banner — better as you get tothe edge of the dog park area.

What a great opportunityto control your dog just a little bit earlierso you don't have your dog running up to other folks.

I've been proud that wehave been able to keep it open and I don't want to lose that ground.

>> Next question.

>> Thanks guys! I think the question hasbeen answered but I will just ask this anyway, how far.

Maybethis is for chief Sampson, but how far are we preparing to go? I know we want to keepthe city open but how far are we prepared to gois people just are not listening? I was out on the weekendNAD and Mike and I did see a lot of peopleof the pathways.

Some are there because as their owncommunity and others are traveling through.

>> The chief is throwingthis question to me, so I will say, I don't want to soundlike there are a bunch of bad actors when peoplejust want to see the water.

When people just want togo through a stroll or run along the pathways.

I also went to say thatwe have to be so careful and we have to leaveroom for the people who live in thoseneighborhoods.

On this weekend, theyopen the door and closed the door.

And did they felt verytrapped inside their home because there weretoo many people.

We are lucky enough tolive in a city that is full of green spaceand pathways.

I went for a long walk onMonday for an hour and 1/2 and only didwas do loops and I noticed thatpeople were being very careful.

In my neighborhood, it'svery popular to go for a walk after dinner.

Not enough peoplewearing masks, but people were beingcareful about it.

The real question is, how far were we willing to go? If we save the lives then weare willing to go far.

You have to look at otherplaces in the world that have been successfulat flattening the curve and see how farthey have to go.

I don't want to beforced into that.

I don't want to be in asituation where you have heard me talk aboutwhat's going on there and some scientists havesaid that if they called this restriction one dayearlier they would have had the number of deaths, if it was one day later, there would've doubledthe deaths.

We can see restaurantsclosing for pickup and having delivering only.

I don't to go to any ofthose places if we don't have to.

The power to deal withhis his — the people — the power to dealwith this is in the hands of peopleof Calgary.

We really have startedto flatten the curve.

We cannot let up now.

A friend of mine saidthat saying the curve is flattening, we shouldease restrictions now is like saying the parachuteappears to be working, let'scut it off.

That's not the rightanswer at all.

But, I just really am.

— Appealing to tell Gary and as much as I makingto do this, is it the rightthing to do? When you are decidingwhether to throw something in thegreen bin, blue Ben, and black men.

The rule is, when indoubt, put in the black van if you don'tknow if it goes in the other two.

I think this issimilar here.

When in doubt, don't go out.

If you have toask yourself if this is a safe thingto do, it's not a safe thing to do.

We will wrap up there, thank you everyone for your great questions, remember, clean hands, clear has open hearts.

Stay home to protectthose who can and be kind to everyone.

Together we willsave lives.

Thank you all, wewill talk on Friday.

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