in light of recent events what is thebest course of action when confronted by an obvious abuse of authority resultingin personal injury due to an innocent person to an innocent person oh to aninit say to an innocent person that that occurs in one's presence at what pointis it acceptable
to physically engage with the assailant even though theassailant has some kind of authority sorry that's two questions waitwhatwhat's the recent event the recent event is the person on the airplanegetting dragged off and injured yeah because that was over like all thatyeah yeah overbooked flight yeah so what and
you know obviously I guess you couldput more recent events is you know if you if you could have a police officerthat's doing something you could have a bouncer you know I'm sure you haveplenty of stories about your nightclub days besides just wearing jeans in thewrong area unless you
know has a big violation but so so here's what here'shere's my answer that's what do you do and one of those things has happenedfirst of all the people that are in the situation are wrapped up in thesituation they're emotionally mentally wrapped up in the situation thesituation has escalated
they're caught in a storm mmm and you're not in thestorm you're outside the storm so what do most people do and they see thatstorm going on what do most people do tell me panic no they pull out theiriPhones and they start recording the situation that's what they do
that'swhat everyone does Hey oh there's a fight going on worldstar let's rev it upyou don't I'm saying yeah well they have a lot of good fights on there but youhave to watch so yeah well cause you learn from you see we way people act yousee some human nature
in videos so that's what people do so what youactually want to do instead of pulling out your video is you want to try andget them out of that moment emotionally you want to talk to them like a normalperson engage with them you know hey hey sir you need
to calm down that's just apolice officer he doesn't mean any harm hey hey you know officer that that guy'snot a threat to you right now you know just take a step back it looks likehe's trying to relax you know you want to talk them disengage them gettingtheir heads
out of those bad scenarios yeah and you know being a calm voice saysome things like I said say something hey officer there's a lot of people thatare videoing this right now you know just a lot of people saw what happenedso let's it's it's you you don't have to
do anything else you can let's let's getthis person under control I can give you a hand or whatever you know you justwanna you and and of course what is it what is their initial reaction to beback at you just back away or if you don't shut up you're
you know you don'tknow and and so you need to absorb that right say hey look I'm not I'm notgiving you any threats at all I'm just here to help out I don't want to see anytrouble don't want you to get in trouble you just want to talk to
people and getthem to they get them out of that emotional storm that they're in bothsides both sides because it's a really nasty situation you know when you don'tlisten to me when I start to hurt you when I grab your your wrist let's saylike one of those like police
pain compliance type moves I grab your wristand I start to twist it you as a human being the natural instinct some peoplemight have the instinct to comply but a lot of people have the instinct if yougrab me and start hurting me I'm gonna go away yes okay you're
resisting nowyou're resisting to what I need you i need to go Harkerwell the harder I go the more you resist and you see where this is goingnext thing you know I'm beating you in the head because I don't know how to usea show called unfortunately because in some
areas the choke codes are illegalhmm so again as the outsider you want to pull them out of that you want to talkto them you want to get them to see that outside of this emotional storm thatthey're in both sides both sides are an emotional storm physical interventionyou know
now we are talking like this is a serious step you start stepping intothese scenarios you don't know you want to be very very careful about steppingin a tease one of these situations and even that physical escalation should beour physical intervention should be just with the sole purpose ofde-escalating
right you're not walking over and you know grabbing a guy no heyyou know it's like a hand on the shoulder hey sir a officer hey you knowtsa agent or whoever you are hey let's just calm down let you want meto give you a hand getting this person under
control you know you you don'twant to get these people to where now you become because as soon as you dothat you just ended up a storm yeah you part of the storm now yeah eventhough you're trying not to be you're you're you're entering the storm so yougotta be
very very cautious about what you're doing there and you know whatwould I do in a situation where I saw someone getting you know beat to deathyou know I'm gonna do what I just said you know now might I go a little bitfurther because I have a lot of
experience and maybe I can handle thesituation and deescalate it physically yeah and you know you see this sometimeswhere something we escalating in innocent civilians will come and help anofficer secure a person so those there's ways to do it yeah you just got to bevery very cautious when you
do those when you do that because the the otherpiece of this is and again you see this on on YouTube you don't know whathappened to get to this point you don't know who that person is who theperpetrator is right the perpetrator might look totally innocent but youdon't know
any background so when you start stepping in there you might bestepping in there to defend a person that just shot a person or a person thatjust you know got caught doing something or a person that really did resist thecops hard and do do some damage so I don't
I don't know and I'm generallygonna side with with a police officer right I mean the police officer I'm I'mrespecting that they that they're doing the right thing yeah and sort of step inthere and start making something happen isn't is not gonna generally work out ina good way maybe
you can help them get theperpetrator under control but yeah to make the assumption that because a cophas escalated to a point of violence that the cop is and how to control crazycop it's but not an accurate assumption the most likely that's the wrongassumption you know you know cops
are not walking around waiting to to beatthe crap out of people that's not what they're doing they don't want to doyeah when it happens it hits something something has generally led up to whenwe see it in a case that isn't like that that's why we see it as
it's now newsit's now news yeah so be very very careful about that againyou know most of the time you know just try and deescalate it verbally ask ifthey need any assistance ask if you can call 911 and get more assistance forthem ask if they need any help talk
to that you know do that take that approachif you have to physically intervene especially if you have some experienceyou know let them know what you're doing do you need any help do you need anyassistance that type of thing and I'm sure we'll get some feedback from fromsome cops
on this one and it'll be good yeah yeah I feel it when I was back tothe bouncer situation when guys would you know fight would break out so in aclub on a fight break breaks out is more chaotic than you know in the street whenyou see two guys
fighting so it's a little bit more dangerous when you jumpinto the fight to try to break it up because if you just jump in and grab theguy the guy doesn't know if you're trying to break up the fight or ifyou're a guy you're just another attacker yeah exactly
right so he'sgonna start swinging or whatever and that's not to mention any of that guy'sfriends who sees you do that in the dark you know all this you know the darknight club lights whatever so well he might hate you whatever and then youknow bottles came in it can
be dangerous so if you jump in there with before youeven touch the person you you're already saying break it what I would always sayis either break it up or or calm down like calm down guys break it up break itup before you even touch them and they hear
that so when they feel you theydon't feel a punch it's like calm down calm down they feel you kind of it'smore of a light giving a compared to the the guy who he's fighting with it's nota punch it's not a wrestling moves nothing it's like you're breaking it
upand you just gave me a good reminder to if you're on the outside and you seesomething like this going on like if you're on that plane you see this thisthis passenger getting roughed up you know hey hey hey passenger just calmdown do what they're telling you to do
just do what their just comply with whatthey're doing to do you know just relax let them cuff you just relax you knowyou can take you know definitely heard cops say this actuallyI heard the guy that was on Sam Harris's podcast like if you want to got an issuewith
what a cops doing to you bring it to the court we'll let your lawyershandle it you don't handle it right there because you're gonna lose you'regonna lose that situation you're gonna end up hurt you're gonna end up injuredis gonna be a bad scenario so the same thing tell
them to tell you know if yousee someone getting getting roughed up then hey hey man we're all watching justcomply just do what they're telling you to do and take it up to with a lawyerlater just try and get that person to calm down cuz that's you know chancesare
you know the police officer he's arrested thousands of people put hishands on thousands of people that person that's getting roughed upthey haven't they've not been arrested you know I can guarantee you that Unitedpassenger probably never been arrested in his life so here he is and like Isaid you
start to pull me I'm gonna resist yeah I don't people don't pull meno but don't pull me but now all the sudden we got an incident going on so ifsomeone saying hey listen just listen to what they're telling you you need tojust calm down you don't want this
to get any worse that type of thing yeahtalk to people and get them to detach a little bit
